With all the uncertainty in the finances, stock markets and economies, retirement planning is getting much more difficult. Here are just a few of the elements making retirement planning more challenging:
How can one plan for retirement using these types of investment returns? The answer is one can't. These type of returns would lead me to conclude my only options are to work forever or to depend primarily on Social Security :-)
For me, the solution is to assume that long term returns will be close to the average and adjust for short term (up or down) variances. To me, an assumption of 7% long term returns from stocks is a reasonable estimate. Although it appears unlikely now, I believe the market will be at or above 7% returns within a year.
If the market continues to fall, our adjustment will be to continue reducing expenses and increase wage income through part time jobs or a full time job. If we were still working, we'd reduce spending and increase the amount of funds saved.
If the stock market has returns over 7%, we will adjust by increasing our cash position, and perhaps paying down our mortgage, which is our only debt. We would do this to be better prepared for the next market decline, since I expect the year to year volatility to be much higher over the next few years.
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2 comments:
I am usually an optimist. However, let's look at your numbers in more detail. The Dow has dropped more than 50% in a year and half. If the market were to stop dropping and immediately rise by 7% per year like you assume, it will take about 10 years just to get back to its October 2007 value.
I usually like to look at the Nasdaq which is around 1300 right now. Do you remember that the Nasdaq peaked at about 5100 in March 2000? At a 7% growth rate, it would take about 20 years from now to get back to that point.
And, what about those financial stocks that dropped 98%? Assuming that they don't go out of business, you can expect a complete recovery in about 60 years or so.
These are very sobering numbers, even for an optimist...
Pfstock,
Fully agree with you that at 7% average annual returns, it will take about 10 years to get back to previous peak, at least for the Dow. I think that is a realistic view. Thus for planning purposes, we have lowered the projected value of our invested funds in the future, since our starting point today is much lower than October, 2007.
I definitely wish the future estimate was higher, but it's better than planning on 0% returns for the next 10 years, which I hope is unlikely :-)
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